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Discussion title

Introduction by initiating person. What does anyone else think??

--Cassolotl (talk) 19:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Wow, that idea sucks. XD
--Cassolotl (talk) 19:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Page content

The purpose of this page seems a bit vague and all over the place. I'm suspecting it should be divided into multiple different pages - e.g.:

  • How-to guides for wiki-ing generally (although this may not be necessary at all because there are already help pages)
  • Ettiquette for the wiki (i.e. about not editing people's comments)
  • Style guide for the wiki (i.e. about capitalisation)

Anyone got thoughts?

--Jazzable (talk) 22:47, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I figured it would be expanded and split off into more detailed subpages as it grew and got better, but while it's just a collection of loosely related thoughts it seemed better to put them all on one page so it's easier to read the stuff we've established so far. I think if we're going to split it off, it should be made much more epic first. Does that make sense? (Edit: perhaps one day "How to wiki" will be a category filled with relevant pages.)
--Cassolotl (talk) 23:16, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
I see what you mean. In that case I'm going to do some organising and rearranging of the stuff on the page, so that it's in a format that would make more sense to potentially be split in the future.
--Jazzable (talk) 10:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
That sounds cool, I am not attached to the structure, I just wanted to get a few ideas and gistiness down.
--Cassolotl (talk) 11:50, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Wiki tutorial stuff

There are some things that I think shouldn't be on this page at all. Basic information about how to use wikis generally, seems irrelevant - it's all covered in much more detail on the general mediawiki help, which is prominently accessible from the sidebar. Things I want to remove:

  • "General editing" section - it doesn't even really contain any information so it seems unnecessary.
  • "Adding pictures" section - it seems arbitrary, why is one little nugget of information about uploading relevant enough to go on this page, but the rest isn't?
  • "Talk pages" main section - although the etiquette part should stay because that's more specific to this particular wiki.

Anyone have any strong objections to me removing those parts?

--Jazzable (talk) 11:00, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't have any objection but I will say that I put the adding pictures section there for easy reference. It might be that no one needs it. Ideally what I'd like is a thing on each image's page that gives you a copy-paste easy-insert code for adding the picture to a wiki page, but I can't find a way to do that yet, and from what I've found it's not possible. So at some point I might put it on an "easy reference" page at some point. These are my feelings and plans. :)

I guess if you're going to remove the pictures section, can you just put it on my talk page instead? :D

--Cassolotl (talk) 11:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
I see what you mean. I'll copy the pictures section onto your talk page for now and it might be that a shortcuts/quick reference page becomes useful at some point. :)
--Jazzable (talk) 14:34, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Page name

I think the page name should be change to something clearer and more specific. Suggestion: "This Land Wiki Guidelines". Any other ideas?

--Jazzable (talk) 14:48, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
My first thought is, we don't need to specify "This Land" - which other wiki could we be referring to? So that shortens the title. And my second thought is, since it's not a proper noun, small g. So that means: "Wiki guidelines".
As a result of this, I will put it on the page as a moverequest template, and people might come here to discuss it more!
--Cassolotl, Admin (talk) pronouns: they/them 21:05, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Style guide for second/third person

Should there be something about when to use second and third person? My instinct would be "always use third person except for in Category:Tutorial pages".

-- Jazzable (talk), they/them/their/theirs/themself 20:52, 7 February 2016 (UTC)